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Life Without Redknapp: Some Thoughts On What Will Happen If Harry Leaves

Could he really leave mid-season?

Well, I have Fabio Capello to thank for two things today: first of all, potentially screwing my team out of a smooth run in during the latter stages of their Premier League campaign this year, and secondly for rendering huge swathes of a very long article I'd written today redundant. Cheers on all counts my friend. In the name of delivering content, however, I am determined to provide this site with something today, so here are some of my immediate reactions to the possibility of losing Redknapp and some thoughts for the future for you to chew over, discuss and ultimately dismiss as sheer madness.

1. What will happen to Bale's development from here on in?

We've all noticed it. This site's authors have spilled an intensive amount of cyber-ink over it. Even Redknapp himself has confirmed it. Gareth Bale is no longer an out-and-out winger any more, largely thanks to Redknapp's hands-off, player ability-lead approach this season. Though he often ventures out wide to provide the killer cross, in recent games Bale has started to drift inside and function almost as an attacking CAM who uses his pace and vision to provide stunning goals. What will happen if Redknapp does take the England job and is replaced by a manager who takes a more traditional approach to lining his players up?

Certainly, if it was Capello himself taking over in a straight swap, Bale would be shunted out wide back into the position he plays best in on paper, with his more spontaneous tendancies encouraged out of him (and cheers for absolutely wasting Steven Gerrard at the World Cup that way too Fabio. Come to think of it I really don't like the guy that much at all any more). This would obviously go against the path that young Bale is starting to forge for himself under Redknapp's intuitive style of play. Clearly it's highly unlikely that Capello will actually be at the helm of Spurs come next season, but it's still a pertinent question considering how many managers share his style.

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2. Would a new manager-chairman dynamic overhaul our transfer policy?

Clearly, as far our movements in the transfer market over the past few years can be used as a telling insight, Redknapp and Levy have quite an odd relationship. From time to time, Redknapp seems as able as any manager to lay down the law and force through the signings he wants. Equally however, there are times when he seems completely clueless as to which players we're keeping and getting rid of, as his general befuddlement during the Luka to Chelsea saga illustrated. All in all it seems that Levy isn't all as in favour of a singular approach to transfers as he claimed to have been when he abolished the Director of Football role around the time of his appointment of Redknapp; indeed, when it comes to bringing in players as well as stopping our stars from leaving, Levy seems pretty much like the only person who truly knows what's going on.

What I'm starting to wonder is whether a new manager would change this state of affairs. As a matter of fact, I would put some kind of money on the Director of Football position being reinstated and the new manager having even less autonomy over transfers. Look at the facts now: the key members of our first team are all products of Comolli's scouting during his time at Spurs. In an era of Manchester City throwing silly money around for the Agueros of this world, a shrewd Director of Football might be necessary to help secure the type of low-cost, high-return signings that Spurs would need to make to keep up with the pack leaders. All in all, bad experiences with Comolli might come to bear on the way Levy restructures the Spurs staff if Redknapp leaves. Bear with me on this one, people. I think it might have legs.

3. Would you even want a Mourinho-type at Spurs?

It sounds like borderline idiotic question. Why would I not want Levy to usher in a manager who could change the fortunes of our club in a way we could never have anticipated in recent years and launch Spurs to the pinnacle of European football. Well, I've been doing some intense soul-searching in the, oh, six or so hours I've had since the news about Capello broke, and I just don't know if I could come around to being used to having a big name manager at the helm of Spurs. It all comes back to the point someone made about clubs having personalities of their own that someone made a few months back when the possibility of signing Carlos Tevez was being floated around this site.

I really truly do believe that Spurs has an identity of it's own, and for me Tottenham has never been a club where the name of the gaffer had a more immediate impact on people than those on the team sheet. When a manager as big-name as Mourinho, Capello, Louis van Gaal or the like comes in, this idea becomes untenable, lost in the face of the expectations and assumptions that come with such figures. So the minute people started to think of Spurs as a vehicle for a Special One, I'd feel something had been lost. No-one, manager included, should be bigger than the club and I'm not sure I could reconcile myself with the media emphasis on the fortunes of the ‘new Mourinho team'. For me, being a Spurs fan has always been more about deflating those types of clubs, and I can't even see a drastic improvement in the results we achieve taking away that feeling. Perhaps this is the kind of issue that requires address in a longer piece for another day, but for the purposes of this instant reaction piece I feel it bears at least throwing out there for consideration.

4. Dear God, please don't let it be Bond and Jordan for the rest of the season

Our squad needs a leader they can get behind this season and work to impress this season. Assistant manager Kevin Bond and First Team Coach Joe Jordan are not that leader. First of all for the obvious reason that they are two people, but for not smartasses out there I'd also like to point out that their direction has seen Spurs flounder even when we've been playing at our most supremely confident. Against Fulham, even when winning 3-1, we looked at best bereft of rhythm and cohesion; against Liverpool, we looked like we didn't have a plan that went any deeper than ‘sweet Jesus just keep it out of the goal'. Under Bond and Jordan we have alsowitnessed such madness as Sandro being brought on when we need a goal.

Clearly, the two men are not strong or assertive enough to shape and enforce a game plan on the Spurs side when they need some direction; they seem clueless as to how to turn the tide of a game and cannot inspire any of the swagger and confidence out of the side that we've seen elsewhere, and for these reasons I cannot conceive of a situation more horrifying than them taking the reigns even for the last few months of the campaign.

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Regarding #1

I really don’t care if a new manager tells Bale to stick to the left, until he gets a better right foot he’s got no business in the middle of the field. It’s way more effective as a 5 minute thing in a match to throw a team off than a constant thing, it just marginalizes Bale.

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by Nick Petrilli on Feb 9, 2012 4:07 PM GMT reply actions  

To carry on from Nick's point:

I think he may be served much better by a manager with a stronger tactical grasp of the game. First of all, there’s no reason to assume that the manager will just “stick Bale out on the left.” Mou is a rigid tactical coach, and he still lets CRon roam inside. van Gaal successfully converted Schweinsteiger from a winger into one of the best central midfielders in the world.

Secondly, as Nick points out, Bale’s forays into the center haven’t always been successful. Bale absolutely needs time and the freedom to develop as a player and add new dimensions to his game. But with the free reign Harry’s given him, this development has been sort of aimless. A stronger tactical manager may be able to get Bale to understand better when it’s appropriate and beneficial to the team to make those inside runs. As it stands, Bale doesn’t really seem to have a great grasp on when he should stay wide and when he should move centrally. A manager like some of the ones you discount could very well give his development better direction.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 4:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

I agree with you guys on this

I remember when Bale used to completely own the left flank – and I mean completely dominate it, and essentially take up residence in the attacking left corner, from whence he would deliver inch perfect crosses. At that point, he already looked like one of the best left wingers in the game, and that was like 2 or 3 years ago. It wouldn’t be a bad thing to see that again once in a while, so I could definitely live with a manager who directs him to stay on the wing every now and again. He’s had some very high profile success cutting in in the past year, but that says more about Spurs’ improvement as a team than where he’s best suited to play.

by Joamiq on Feb 9, 2012 8:26 PM GMT up reply actions  

Respectfully Disagree

Being two footed is not a prerequisite to coming inside. Lionel Messi and Arjen Robben are heavily right footed and have been very successful playing on the right (and, in Messi’s case, through the center). Bale himself has been very effective playing on the right for Wales.

As for Bale not always being successful in the middle or on the right, I ask you to compare his forays there to the alternative: playing wide left all game. While he has certainly had great games there (the torching of Maicon comes to mind) he has also been completely marked out of games (I’m thinking specifically of when he came up against Phil Neville on Everton). Yes there are going to be some teething pains but Bale has been absolutely devastating this season, a large part of that coming through the center. Forcing him out wide will only stunt his development.

by brett rainbow on Feb 9, 2012 4:46 PM GMT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

You can look back towards the end of last season and even the beginning of this season and see that once teams learned how to mark Bale wide he lost his effectiveness. While we all threw up our hands (among other things?) once we started seeing Bale drift inwards, the Double-Stuffed Inverted Wingerz™, FRAAB development, etc., I don’t think you can really argue that this development has brought a new dimension to his game that has been positive. To my eyes, Bale seems much more of a scoring threat in a flexibile “libero” role than as a strict winger.

What does that mean for our new manager (putting the cart waaay in front of the horse)? It means that I now don’t want Capello. And I probably don’t want Mourinho (not that he’d come). And that I’m taking a long, hard look at Brendan Rodgers and Lucien Favre.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 4:51 PM GMT up reply actions  

I think when you said libero, you meant trequarista

A libero is a technically proficient sweeper who runs the game from the back, like Beckenbauer.

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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 9, 2012 5:04 PM GMT up reply actions  

Durr. Yes.

In my caffeine-deprived mind, I translated the Italian “libero” literally.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 5:30 PM GMT up reply actions  

Favre

Man, I need to watch some more football besides the Prem. I actually thought people were making a Brett Favre joke earlier when they were listing Favre. I didn’t realize that people were talking about someone else. :)

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:30 PM GMT up reply actions  

don't mean to split hairs,

but Robben and Messi are both predominantly left footed…

by olorcain on Feb 9, 2012 5:28 PM GMT up reply actions  

Just one request

If a new manager does come in, it would be nice if he could help the lads successfully execute & score on either a corner kick or set piece. Just once.

by The Roving One on Feb 9, 2012 4:43 PM GMT reply actions  

SET PIECE?

Wat is dis?

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ALL GLORY TO THFC
VICK-VICK-VICKADELPHIA
I believe in MAGIC
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by NJoverNY on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

Not fair

They scored on that one where Bale flicked it on …. and then they have repeated it 100 times since!

by ChrisB76 on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM GMT up reply actions  

Oh my God, yes. Every time we win a corner, it’s Bale to the near post! They’ll never see it comin!

by Chemo on Feb 9, 2012 7:15 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yeah really

I haven’t seen a good set piece in months. That would be a breath of fresh air

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:37 PM GMT up reply actions  

Mourinho?

Won’t happen, but if it did I think I would get over my disappointment after a couple of league titles.

As for Harry’s player development abilities, I think they are the weakest part of his skill set. Just telling the players to ‘go out and play’ every game and standing round chatting and leaving it to the coaches during training sessions (I’ve been to one, he doesn’t give a monkey’s) isn’t much of a learning curve for them. The players don’t always know what is best for their own development. In fact people have partly blamed Joe Cole’s failure to reach his full potential on Redknapp and his early insistence that everyone just give the ball to Cole and let him do what he wants, because he’s ‘magic’. Hence his inability to play intelligently off the ball or know when to pass instead of running up a blind alley.

by RobSpurs on Feb 9, 2012 5:03 PM GMT reply actions  

It's Grantland..

“Journalism” is a relative term over there…. unless you are really into a tangent every paragraph devoid of any clear point.

by Brendan Darr on Feb 9, 2012 5:48 PM GMT up reply actions  

And footnotes

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:49 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'm generally not a big fan of Grantland, but this is an awesome footnote:
At one point during his trial he declared himself “the least greedy person you will ever meet,” then demanded that the Bible be brought back out so he could swear on it a second time.

by Joamiq on Feb 9, 2012 8:35 PM GMT up reply actions   2 recs

I've been finding his stuff hit or miss for Grantland

That’s what I’ve been finding with most of that site though. When an article is on, it’s ON but when it’s not..oof. This one wasn’t bad.

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:45 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Grantland in general.

Maybe I was just blinded by the cheese and pickle roll story. But I liked it.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 5:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

With the exception of Men in Blazers, right?

RIGHT?

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 5:49 PM GMT up reply actions  

Grantland gave us a letter from Kenny Powers to Tim Tebow

all their other sins are forgiven

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 5:50 PM GMT up reply actions  

This is what I'm talking about

When they get something right, it’s awesome. That letter was great.

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:50 PM GMT up reply actions  

The cheese and pickle roll story ruled

Definitely the highlight.

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:50 PM GMT up reply actions  

Jose?

I’m in the pro-Mourinho camp, though I realize it’s a bit lonely here. The guy has personality defects and a larger than life persona, but then again, is he really so different from ‘Arry? Spurs right now seem to win on the basis of talent and motivation, so wouldn’t we be even stronger with a tactician like Mourinho? I like ’Arry’s fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants approach to managing, but I doubt it would bring us any sustained success. Two or three seasons of Mourinho’s antics and possibly achievements would be preferable to the possibility that other teams simply adapt to Spurs playing style and ’Arry’s legacy diminishes. His stock has never been higher, this is the time for him to become the manager of England.

by whocarestom on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM GMT reply actions  

The big difference for me

is that Mourinho is more known for playing negative football. Even when he has the tools, his teams seem much less inclined to really cut it loose and play positive, attacking footie.

THAT is where Spurs excel, both historically and in recent season. I would hate for that to change.

It’s a moot point, though, because TEH SPESHUL WAN won’t get the money or the freedom barring Levy leaving and new ownership.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 5:35 PM GMT up reply actions  

Aren't Madrid like top scores though

and Porto.. Weren’t they fairly attacking as well. It was just Inter that was really negative.

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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 9, 2012 5:37 PM GMT up reply actions  

Mourinho

will play to whatever strengths the team has and against whatever weaknesses the opposition has. It’s true that he will do whatever it takes to win even sinking into “negative” tactics but I don’t think he’d be a terrible option tactically. But other things such as transfer money and the amount of control that Mourinho loves could make it a less than happy situation for the club.

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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 9, 2012 5:43 PM GMT up reply actions  

Does new manager = more summer spending

So if we get a new manager, will it = big spending by us in the summer?

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:40 PM GMT reply actions  

Not necessarily.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 5:41 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'm doubtful

Levy might give a small warchest, but it would be a realistic sized one in terms of maintaining a strong financial position.

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:51 PM GMT up reply actions  

New striker

We desperately are going to need to spend on a striker and also probably a rt. winger. I would love for us to bring in some big names for the new skipper.

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:43 PM GMT reply actions  

I actually don't want a "big" name striker per say

but rather an up and coming player ready to make a name for himself.
Bale wasn’t “big”, nor was Lennon.
Modric was moderately know, as was Berbs.
I rather Spurs spend wisely than big.

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 5:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

I can get behind this, if they perform well. I definitely think it is best to spend wisely vs. wasting all of your money on one player. What I don’t want us to do is be cheapskates and stock up on guys like Saha— but I don’t think that will happen.

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:52 PM GMT up reply actions  

Bale was huge dude

Berbatov was a leading scorer in Germany and Modric had a lot of suitors.

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by Nick Petrilli on Feb 9, 2012 5:52 PM GMT up reply actions  

per wiki

Bale :
“On 25 May 2007, Bale signed a four-year deal with Tottenham Hotspur with Spurs paying an initial £5 million for Bale, potentially rising to £10 million based on appearances and success.24 However, Tottenham paid Southampton an early settlement payment of £2 million in 2008 to reduce the final fee to £7 million and allow the Saints the immediate cash that they desperately needed.”
That’s cheap to me.

Lennon:
“With Leeds suffering financial difficulties, Lennon made a £1 million move to Tottenham Hotspur on 15 June 2005.”
Cheap again.

Modric:
“Modrić agreed transfer terms with Tottenham Hotspur on 26 April 2008. He was the first of many summer signings for coach Juande Ramos, and also the Premier League’s first summer transfer.13 After signing a 6 year contract from summer 2008,14 Tottenham confirmed that the total fee paid was £16.5 million”
Worth every penny.

Berbs:
“Tottenham Hotspur reached an agreement with Bayer Leverkusen for Berbatov’s transfer in May 2006;3334 the fee of €16 million (£10.9 million)”
Just like with Modric, given all their previous work, we got them cheap.

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:02 PM GMT up reply actions  

What are we talking about here?

The price of the player = bigness of the player? Van der Vaart was a Big Name and he was dirt cheap. Paying 20 million fro Leandro would be a big fee, but he’s not really a Big Player yet. So, I guess I just don’t know what we’re talking about anymore. Are you saying you don’t want to pay a lot of money for players, or don’t want players with big names or egos? They’re not mutually exclusive concepts.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 6:10 PM GMT up reply actions  

price

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:12 PM GMT up reply actions  

I don't want to buy player that have already established themselves

in the “top” leagues. Rather someone(s) that are moving here to establish there name in the same breath as big name players.
Luka and Berbs were “unproven” big names when they came here. Leandro would be just like that, so I would be for that signing.
Taking on a Tevez or Drogba would not be okay with me.

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:16 PM GMT up reply actions  

recommendation?

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 7:16 PM GMT up reply actions  

Bale was a bigger player than Connor Wickham ever was

He’d already been capped for Wales and him and Aaron Ramsey were considered two of the best British prospects coming up that generation. The transfer fee was supposed to be 10 million plus, which for a player his age was immense. EVERYONE WANTED HIM!

Lennon wasn’t THAT highly regarded (yet) and Leeds were still trying to right the ship, they were taking ANY money.

Modric was first choice for Croatia for years by the time we bought him, and for 16.5 million!

And with Berbatov, his national background I think factored into the price, as well as fears he wouldn’t translate to the English game. Same thing happened with Cisse.

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by Nick Petrilli on Feb 9, 2012 7:24 PM GMT up reply actions  

These are not small name players

Luka Modric was the club record signing and Bale was pretty widely acknowledged as the best teenager in Britain at the time. Neither was cheap or under the radar. I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 9, 2012 7:21 PM GMT up reply actions  

So I'm the only one that remembers pundits saying that

these players couldn’t hack it in the EPL and that Tottenham are crazy for buying these player?

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 8:01 PM GMT up reply actions  

If you care what Sky/Daily Fail/Sun pundits say

I can’t help you.

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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 9, 2012 8:03 PM GMT up reply actions  

Wenger has said that Arsenal passed on Modric

because they didn’t think he could be physical enough in the EPL, but you’re right, he was on a ton of radars. Its just that Spurs’ gamble paid off.

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 8:10 PM GMT up reply actions  

But that was all we had up until 2008 though.

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 8:32 PM GMT up reply actions  

2nd chance

we may also find some added use for some guys who haven’t flourished under Redknapp — guys like Gio might flourish under a new coach, but I still think we are going to need to add some strong signings. Plus we may have Champions league money and notoriety to help draw in some players

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 5:56 PM GMT up reply actions  

I don't think Mourinho would work

If only because of his tradition of liking to splash the cash and Levy not being that kind of guy. He’d certainly be capable, but it comes back to the traditions of Tottenham football and how much he would embrace the free flowing style that has typically been associated with Tottenham.

I think Bale is going to keep developing and his inclination to move inside is natural. He’s learning to adapt his game to what he is given and he has to recognize this. If someone is going to mark him out of a game, work on the movement inside, running one twos with VDV, Modric, Ade, etc. If they’re giving him the space, rampage on the wing. He’s got a huge ceiling that he seems to only be scraping the surface of with ’Arry. Ideally another manager would be able to recognize the fact that Bale is developing and can be deployed in either sense in terms of tactics.

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by Willman on Feb 9, 2012 5:56 PM GMT reply actions  

What if...

Chelsea fail to make the top four. AVB is Roman’d and kicked to the curb. Spurs pick up AVB for the 2012-2013 season.

by Jellyfeast on Feb 9, 2012 5:58 PM GMT reply actions  

(Dinosaurs KILL man… women inherit the earth…)

by Jellyfeast on Feb 9, 2012 5:59 PM GMT up reply actions  

Didn't he say the say thing about that Italian fellow?

And the other two Portuguese speaking gentlemen?

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:12 PM GMT up reply actions  

Levy would not pay what it would cost to hire AVB

i.e. AVB won’t come cheap and I’m sure that there’s something in Chelsea’s contract we’d have to pay them to hire him.

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 6:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

This anti-Mou stuff is killing me

I’m going to have to write on this. He is not “negative”. Inter played entertaining football, save for their bunker job against Barcelona. Real Madrid play beautiful football when they’re not playing Barcelona. Chelsea had plenty of 1-0s, but to say they were negative and boring is lazy and is not a proper explanation of how they played. These are very unfair categorizations.

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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 9, 2012 6:02 PM GMT reply actions  

I think...

If I’m reading this correctly, Mourinho is great for us, as long as we don’t play Barcelona…

by Brendan Darr on Feb 9, 2012 6:04 PM GMT up reply actions  

no the only way to beat Barca

is give them all the flu

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:11 PM GMT up reply actions  

Or dodgy lasagna.

(Oh, wait, that’s us)

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 6:12 PM GMT up reply actions  

I see what u did there

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:16 PM GMT up reply actions  

It's how we beat them at the Emirates!

D’oh! I revealed the secret!

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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 9, 2012 6:59 PM GMT up reply actions  

The way to beat Barcelona is long bus trips

So we need lots of volcano explosions

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 6:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

OK, I sit corrected.

I’ll be honest and say that I haven’t watched many Mourinho-coached teams except when they were playing Barcelona, but that was always my impression of their tactics. I will admit that I likely got a skewed opinion of them from that.

Certainly I’d love to read more about this misconception.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 6:14 PM GMT up reply actions  

My problems with Mourinho:

1. Rigid Tactical System: Mourinho lines his teams up very similarly wherever he goes and expects his players to play his system. Bale and VDV have thrived under the FRAAB tactics employed by Harry. I worry that the culture shock of going from laissez-faire Harry to Mou would put them off. Sort of like Juande and his ketchup ban.

2. When He Leaves, Teams Suffer: Chelsea have arguably still yet to recover from his departure. Inter have clearly struggled in his absence. (Porto are the exception, but they predate his SpecialOneness). It will be curious to see the direction Real head after Mou leaves. Since it’s a two team league, they probably won’t suffer that much. Still, once Mourinho comes and goes from Spurs, I would definitely be concerned with the state we’re left in. Largely because of..

3. Transfer Kitty: Mourinho is accustomed to doing things his way and bringing in the players he wants. He’s had truckloads of cash available to throw around at players wherever he’s been. I can’t see him accepting the Spurs job without a similar promise. Yes, this fear was raised re Redknapp when he first took the job, but Harry doesn’t seem to control the purse strings at Spurs. Unlike Harry, Mourinho has the clout to demand and actually get what he wants, and if he wants to spend, he will spend, or he won’t come. I worry about where we’ll be after he gets done spending all our money.

4. Mourinho’s Ego: This kind of goes back to all the above points. But Mourinho stamps his imprint over the club wherever he goes. Spurs have their own identity. And it’s bigger than any manager. I don’t want Mourinho trampling our identity, even if it brings success.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 6:24 PM GMT up reply actions  

Addendum

Part of the reason teams struggle when he leaves is that he spends crazy stupid money on aging players that are past it or close to it by the time he goes.

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 6:48 PM GMT up reply actions  

Point 4

Just what I was getting at, amen.

by Edward_Francis on Feb 9, 2012 8:01 PM GMT up reply actions  

We actually were going after AVB until CSKA Cheski came into the picture

on a Spurs podcast I listen to he was top of those lined up to replace ’arry if he had not came back over the summer

Tottenham Hotspurs, Penn State, and Winthrop are the only things that made me cry in my adult life.

by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:03 PM GMT reply actions  

you mean there is another podcast besides WDR? :)

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 6:05 PM GMT up reply actions  

we have a poly-podcast relationship

you knew what it was before we got together. i told you not to think you were the only one.

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:10 PM GMT up reply actions  

yeah, I actually listen to 3 of them. But i think wdr and the spurs show are my favorite. I would like spooky’s podcast more if they talked less about their weekend and just shortened the podcast.

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 6:22 PM GMT up reply actions  

Spooky has a podcast?

#QTNA

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:24 PM GMT up reply actions  

are you serious? or are you joking? I can’t tell from your qtna? but it listed on the dml website

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 6:27 PM GMT up reply actions  

YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO AM 452

Because it’s a podcast. And Skipjack and I are wildly entertaining on it.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 6:25 PM GMT up reply actions  

i didn't realize that there was a 452 podcast

ill check it out. I can’t get enough of my spurs fix. especially since in don’t know anyone in knoxville that likes spurs

by COYS1979 on Feb 9, 2012 6:26 PM GMT up reply actions  

Does nobody read the FanShots on this site?

by johnf34 on Feb 10, 2012 4:07 AM GMT up reply actions  

Spooky's got a podcast?

#QTNA

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:24 PM GMT reply actions  

reply fail

Tottenham Hotspurs, Penn State, and Winthrop are the only things that made me cry in my adult life.

by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:24 PM GMT up reply actions  

From a purely entertainment perspective,

I’m pulling for Ian Holloway. The only man with better interviews than Harry Redknapp. I love that man.

And maybe it wouldn’t be a total disaster! He took Blackpool into the Premier League and nearly kept them up without resorting to negative tactics. Champagne results on a beer budget, right?

by Jellyfeast on Feb 9, 2012 6:24 PM GMT reply actions  

you spelled David Moyes wrong

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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 6:27 PM GMT up reply actions  

You can have him..

When you pry him out of Evertonians cold dead fingers

by Brian_Goodison on Feb 9, 2012 7:50 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Or he pries himself out.

All is not well over there, so I hear.

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by Uncle Menno on Feb 9, 2012 8:13 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'd be happier if he stayed to be honest

He is Mr. Everton and I’d feel a bit like the man who killed Bambi’s mother if we nabbed him

by Edward_Francis on Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM GMT up reply actions  

Taking aside moral concerns

I’d be nervous about picking up Moyes. Not because he isn’t a good manager, its just that he’s been on such a bad budget at Everton for so long I’m not sure how he would actually manage a team with some financial flexibility.

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 8:18 PM GMT up reply actions  

I can see how you'd be right though

I know it’s not fully comparable but we all know what happened when Uncle Woy made the jump from top of the mid table into the big four

by Edward_Francis on Feb 9, 2012 8:26 PM GMT up reply actions  

I mean I have some concerns that he would turn out like Uncle Woy

but what I was getting at is, would what we’ve been seeing from Everton give us an idea of how he would organize and run a team with some more financial muscle or are we just seeing him do what he can with what he’s got.

I suspect the answer lies somewhere in between.

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by Skipjack on Feb 9, 2012 8:33 PM GMT up reply actions  

Not to mention his record with big buys

Wth the exception of Fellaini, when he has spent, it’s not exactly gone well. Yakubu and Billybettybob? Not so much.

by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 9, 2012 8:26 PM GMT up reply actions  

Deer taste good though

Tottenham Hotspurs, Penn State, and Winthrop are the only things that made me cry in my adult life.

by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 9, 2012 8:19 PM GMT up reply actions  

haven't been well for the last 2-3 years

If he gets the offer he’ll leave, but only because you guys would at least give him some sort of a transfer kitty

by Brian_Goodison on Feb 9, 2012 8:18 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I’m in the minority here, but I won’t be too bothered if Harry goes.

by johnf34 on Feb 9, 2012 11:42 PM GMT reply actions  

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by NJoverNY on Feb 10, 2012 12:49 AM GMT up reply actions  

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