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Tottenham Hotspur Formation Analysis: Why 3-5-2 Didn’t Work For Spurs At Stevenage

Ryan Nelsen of Tottenham clears the ball from Chris Beardsley of Stevenage during the FA Cup Fifth Round match at The Lamex Stadium.  (Photo by Scott Heavey/Getty Images)

Last weekend, Spurs limped their way to a deeply unconvincing 0-0 draw against Stevenage away from home at the Lamex Stadium in the FA Cup. Clearly, we cannot merely put this disappointing result down to Spurs not playing a team strong enough to be up the task, as every member of the side was seasoned and talented enough to see off their League One counterparts.

The problem, as I see it, was the 3-5-2 formation that we were attempting to play. The issue is not that the 3-5-2 is an inherently weak way to line a team up - indeed, as I will try to demonstrate, it could have been highly effective if we had pulled it off properly. The problem is that we didn't, for reasons illustrated after the jump.

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As you will have probably noticed right off the bat from the above diagram, Gareth Bale was an abject failure as a central attacking midfielder throughout the match, a lot of which he spent drifting out onto the right wing in an attempt to create danger by getting to the byline and cutting back or cutting in. He was handled extremely well by Scott Laird in this respect, meaning that possession which was picked up by Jake Livermore and Scott Parker and recycled on to him was utterly wasted.

It was this waste of the centre attacking midfield position which was the cause of our woes. The situation severely distorted the attacking ability of our squad, with Saha and Defoe left cut loose from any kind of creative play that would have presented them with chances to score. Livermore and Parker are not playmakers and thus relied on Bale to bridge midfield and our strikers, a responsibility he couldn't quite seem to perform on the day. Worse still, as the diagram suggests, Bale's forays out onto the wing rendered Kyle Walker redundant as a wing back, giving him no reason to strike out ground up the pitch. If the Welsh wizard had been a little less willing to FRAAB and had actually filled the van der Vaart/Modric role, the 3-5-2 would have almost certainly worked a lot better.

One potential saving grace for Spurs was Danny Rose's admittedly very convincing attempts to maraud forward and make the killer cross into the box in his role as a wing back. Unfortunately, as the above diagram shows, Rose was also forced to do some defending in this game as well as Stevenage's right midfielder Lawrie Wilson caused us some problems by roaming forward into the gaps he left- this meant that as Rose was forced to frequently track back he was not always able to fully unleash his potential as a crosser throughout the match, frustrating Spurs' ability to counter-attack. It is possible that if Scott Parker had been willing to provide a little extra cover in this respect, Rose would been a little freer to fulfil his attacking role. Possibly in response to our frustrated attempts to keep possession and carve out attacks, however, Scotty was playing extra aggressively against Stevenage, playing much more to his box to box strengths than to his anchor man abilities.

All in all, we were left with a disjointed performance where a lack of discipline in one or two areas of the pitch had wider repercussions in terms of our overall dynamism and effectiveness. Our lack of a strong centre attacking midfielder rendered our right wing back redundant, left our holding mids with no-one to make passes to and caused us to over-rely on Danny Rose who is not yet a seasoned and competent wing back. Our strikers had no way of responding to this problem, as Saha and Defoe aren't so good at tracking back and coming deep for the ball, and thus opted to sack off for the whole game. Lessons to be learned in all respects.

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Good piece as always, man. My problem of course was “no Sandro.”

by johnf34 on Feb 22, 2012 6:10 PM GMT reply actions  

Krancjar & Lennon

Match changed when they came on. Assuming full fitness of Lennon and Krancjar (which is never safe with Spurs), should have had a starting XI go something like this:

Walker(RWB)———Kaboul—Dawson———Rose(LWB)
-————————Livermore/Parker—————
Lennon -—————————————————
-———————Krancjar——————————— Bale
-——————- Defoe—-Saha————————

Really no need for Livermore and Parker both on the pitch in that type of formation & opponent. At times it seemed like Spurs were playing 5 at the back when Walker & Rose were backtracking (might have me being confused and very hungover.)

The link from 5+ defensive players (3 backs, 2 CDM, 2 wing backs IMO) to Defoe & Saha was definitely the problem so you hit the nail on the head. Does the blame land on Bale or ’arry or both? Probably both.

Can someone with better tactical knowledge elaborate on how the Kyle Walker at RM experiment went? I missed the first 40 minutes but he seemed invisible up until when he was subbed off. Was it just the formation? I know a lot of fans think he can be Bale-lite in regards to changing from a RB to RM player.

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by BracketManSHU on Feb 22, 2012 6:11 PM GMT reply actions  

I would say probably on 'Arry more than Bale

Bale could have helped us out a lot more by being disciplined and playing against his instincts a bit more, but Harry rushed him into the position before he’s shown any consistent signs of being able to play there competently so he should definitely shoulder more blame.

by Edward_Francis on Feb 22, 2012 6:17 PM GMT up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind seeing this formation again

against the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, etc. with our first XI.

Dawson King Kaboul
Walker Parker Modric Bale
VDV
Ade/Saha

I like the look of that.

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by GauchoBruin on Feb 22, 2012 7:18 PM GMT reply actions  

3-4-1-2 is the solution

I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before

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by NJoverNY on Feb 22, 2012 8:51 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yeah, it definitely suits our personnel the best.

Suns & Spurs (not San Antonio) fan. Remembering the Expos forever.

by Willman on Feb 22, 2012 10:56 PM GMT up reply actions  

Save him for games against sides that pose more of an attacking threat

I would play the 3-4-1-2 against the teams who come to WHL intent on parking the bus and coming out with a draw. Bring on Sandro for VDV to close out leads.

Football is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom - D. Blanchflower

by GauchoBruin on Feb 23, 2012 1:03 AM GMT up reply actions  

lennon for walker at rwb

Or kaboul….His left foot looked awful playing on left of 3 at the back

by bill blake on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions  

King would probably play on the left side as he does in the 4-man backline.

by CrestOfAWave on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 PM GMT up reply actions  

mostly agree

So kaboul in the middle? Was thinking I’d like kaboul in the right to give flexibility to move ball up the right via the ground. But leaves daws in middle…guess not awful…esp if kings there

by bill blake on Feb 23, 2012 11:26 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions  

Aside from the drifting out wide right thing,

I don’t think bale can pick out a killer pass as well as Rafa, Luka, or Niko. Bale sure didn’t look like he could in this game anyway.

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 PM GMT via Android app reply actions  

Bale can do a lot of things

and he definitely is a superstar quality player, but he just isn’t a playmaker.

He can link up with short passes and flicks and layoffs around the 18 (that one game earlier this season when he set up Lennon after a give and go), but I agree that he can’t pick our that kinds of incisive passes that he receives from Luka.

by coys_from_wny on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 PM GMT up reply actions  

Quick comment

The pictures in these articles don’t seem to work at all for me, I just see the JPEG artifact icon.

by TPalmer on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 PM GMT reply actions  

Couldn't Krancjar have started as the attacking midfielder?

It probably would have made more sense and given us a better shape then drifter Bale. Gareth’s got a lot of really good traits, but he’s not the kind of guy to rely on for incisive passes. Not sure who you’d drop if Niko started (Livermore?) but it would seem that playing him as the attacking midfielder in this situation would work better.

Suns & Spurs (not San Antonio) fan. Remembering the Expos forever.

by Willman on Feb 22, 2012 10:58 PM GMT reply actions  

My quick answer would be yes

Our whole approach seemed to suggest that we’re perpetually trying to find ways to shoehorn Bale in different sides based on his talent rather than what he actually brings to the table in different situations

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by Edward_Francis on Feb 22, 2012 11:05 PM GMT up reply actions  

Tons written about three in the back the past week

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/feb/22/napoli-italy-back-three-resurgent

Since so many teams are playing it in Italy and Napoli doing its thing in the CL. I did not see Spurs play vs Stevenage so I cant really comment about that. I do not think playing five defensive players (3 center backs and 2 defensive midfielders) will ever be a primary choice for Spurs.

by tinybubbles on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM GMT reply actions  

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