Was anyone else’s initial reaction 'horror' to Spurs activity on Transfer Deadline Day?
With one of the most unpredictable and dramatic days of the footballing year finally coming to a close, fans everywhere were able to take stock and review whether their team had done well or poorly in the transfer window. I, like many spurs followers, was initially sceptical over Tottenham's dealings - I mean Louis Saha, Ryan Nelson? I know ‘Arry likes a seasoned, experience player but Christ, their collective age would get them a bus pass. However, having thought about it a bit more I came to the conclusion that Daniel Levy and co. have, yet again, been pretty astute.
Firstly, two things to point out:
1 - We all know Daniel Levy runs a tight ship - there are ceiling caps on wages, sell-on value is always a factor, the club won't be mortgaged to bring in some Galactios.
2 - Last night's game against Wigan was completely irrelevant in terms of bringing players in. So any injuries sustained cannot be used retroactively to throw at Redknap and Levy while shouting ‘WE NEEDED COVEEEEEER'.
As has been pointed out by Harry repeatedly, he was only interested in bringing in a world class player this window - someone who would clearly improve the squad. This suggests that overall he is happy with his current squad and believes they can still push the Manchester clubs all the way this season. I personally agree with him; I think we have one of the best teams in the Premiership and on our day can outplay anyone (on a side note, does anyone else take a certain smug satisfaction that these teams that have blown huge amounts of money over the last year are no more competitive that Spurs? I frequently remind my United friends of the price difference between Friedel and De Gea)
Reports in the press suggested that attempts were made to land a mythical ‘Big Signing' but were thwarted by the financial restrictions on the club (Remy and Klasic). If you had asked me whether I wanted either of these players I would have said yes but at the cost of discarding Spurs prudent financial management? No, so it's hard to be too disappointed by this.
The second set of transfers are far more telling and interesting in my opinion. These are the sale of Pavlyuchenko and various loans. At first they look like the dealings of a mid-table club. Do you think the Manchester clubs or Chelsea were looking at Saha and thinking well Rio said he was good, plus there both top, top lads? I doubt it. Here is my breakdown of these seemly unambitious deals:
- Pavlyuchenko has been on the way out for a while. Spurs needed someone to spend some money on him and clear him from the wage bill. The market for him was in Russia, Russian clubs are buying now, he needed to be sold. While everyone agreed he could score goals his game style and effort levels would never have made him a regular starter for Spurs and he wasn't happy not playing.
- Bassong, Pienaar and Charlie are all surplus to requirements with Bassong in particular making it clear he's not happy warming the bench. These loans will get them back on the radar as all should be starters at the clubs they've joined. I would also be very surprised if all of these loan deals didn't have a buy option at the end of the season. I think it's very likely that Bassong and Charlie will stay on at their loan clubs.
- With these clear outs Tottenham needed a bit of cover, especially up front, and the deal for Saha could be very clever. They have brought in experienced player in the last final years of his career who will know from the outset that he will be performing a bit part at best. I wouldn't be surprised if the initial deal is for the remaining 6 months with an extension option if a certain amount of appearances or goals are achieved. Wage bill is lowered, the club has experienced cover if needed (that won't complain when not) plus the experience he brings will naturally be shared with the rest of the squad, especially the younger players (I was going to talk about Nelson as well but that doesn't look like it's happened - I thought that would have been a smart move too).
At the end of the season we should see a slimmer squad with hopefully a (top, top) player or two being bought in the post-season transfer period or equally exciting some more youth players breaking into the first team (my favourite Spurs move in January? Falque on a permanent deal. I think he's looks a lot like a Rafa Mk2). Either way this has been, for all intents and purposes, a consolidation window (and season) in terms of signings in preparation for what I anticipate being an exciting summer. On the plus side, take a look at our league position. We should probably consolidate more often...
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Excellent first post, man. Really excellent.
Having slept on it, I’m actually feeling pretty Zen about the whole thing myself. I agree that this was a groundwork window, one that should consolidate & focus us without leaving us too thin (though the right wing & central defense still worry me). The more I think about it, the more I think moving for Saha is a good piece of business for all the reasons you mentioned above. Of course I want the big flashy signing, but I also understand why it’s best that we’re made to wait. I worry we’ve missed the boat Damiao, but there are other fish in the sea, as the wise man once said. All in all, a very business-like window.
(As an aside: Does anyone have any suggestions for ways to easily track player performance in the second half of a season?)
by The Sleeper's Sleep on Feb 1, 2012 12:51 PM GMT reply actions
You make some compelling arguments.
I will be the first to admit that when I heard “Louis Saha” and “Tottenham Hotspur” in the same sentence my immediate and prolonged reaction was abject incredulity. This is an oft-injured aging striker from a middling EPL squad that will certainly not set the world on fire and was arguably at the same level as Pav. And then, there’s Ryan Nelsen, who I had never even heard of until his signing. (We wanted Samba. We got… the OTHER Blackburn CB?)
I’ll be anxious to see what sorts of details come out about this deal over the next few days. However, if what’s being said is true — Saha’s signing was little-to-no money, short term, option to extend, and he’s happy with his bit role — then it very well could be something as you say that’s closer to a consolidation signing.
The frustration we have as fans is that, as was evidenced by the massive bid for Remy, that we HAVE THE MONEY for a top signing. I’m convinced that, if we had wanted to, we could’ve gone out yesterday and gotten Leandro. Or Vertonghen. Or Marin.
Or maybe it’s just that we “casual” fans just don’t understand Levy’s genius in the transfer market, and Saha’s going to go out and score 10 goals for us in the spring. Wouldn’t be the first time.
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It's 2010 all over again
right down to the Saha: Gudjohnson (sic) analogy
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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 1, 2012 2:26 PM GMT up reply actions
I agree
We all want a star signing. Of course we do. But January is never really the time to do that. Fees our inflated to ridiculous amounts and we’re not in a position where we need to pay that right now. We’re in a good position in the league, but Leandro Damiao at 30 gazillion pounds is not going to make us any more likely to overhaul that 5 point gap at the top of the table.
Instead we got some aging, experienced cover who are happy to sit on the bench and be cover. They will come on and do a job when asked for, and actually run around a bit unlike Comrade Vroom.
But seriously, Levy. This summer we better buy some awesome fucking players.
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by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 1, 2012 2:26 PM GMT reply actions
No, I don't think that'll happen.
Which is also why I don’t think Mourinho will ever be at Spurs. He’s more likely to get the England manager position, which will mean more Harry. And I’m okay with that.
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I want GOOOOOOSSSSEEEEE!!!!!
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by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Feb 1, 2012 4:35 PM GMT up reply actions
Agree on Saha/Pav, disagree on the rest.
Given that we fairly frequently have 3 CBs injured (especially considering the fate of our CFC), I can’t see how Bassong was surplus. If King’s knee doesn’t recover fast enough after one of these upcoming games and Kaboul or Dawson gets hurt, what do we do?
Pienaar is surplus ONLY if Harry remembers that GDS is on the team. Unless that happens, Niko is our only winger off the bench.
I can’t see how Charlie was surplus at all, given that he was 2nd on the RB depth chart.
Obviously all of these guys didn’t like sitting on the bench waiting for an injury, but tough shit. On any top team there are good players in that position.
I think we’re walking a tightrope here, and will have to hope for good luck on the injury front.
I don't really get all the criticism of De Gea
It just seems way over the top for me. The fact that he cost a fortune and is replacing one of the best goalkeepers in recent memory really seems to be clouding everyone’s judgement of the kid. He hasn’t been even below average in his time at United, much less poor. When you take into account that he just turned 21 and probably has 15 years left in his career it’s really hard to make a reasonable case that he’s a flop.
Just as a side note, it’s pretty interesting to compare how whoscored has him rated as opposed to guys like Friedel, Reina, Hart, and Cech. While I’m not entirely sold on their ranking system, it’s not entirely awful either. He does an awful lot of things very well, and for a kid with a porous defense in front of him he hasn’t done poorly at all.
I still think De Gea will come good
But it’s still fun to make jokes right now
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Feb 1, 2012 5:40 PM GMT up reply actions
The point is that he doesn't need to "come good"
He’s doing just fine as is. He’s made mistakes, but he hasn’t made any more than guys like Cech or Reina have while facing far more difficult chances. He’s definitely been a better keeper than Cech this year, he’s certainly been a better keeper than Reina, and there’s a good chance he’d look better than Friedel if he was in front of a halfway decent defense. These jokes about how bad he is are just stupid because he hasn’t been bad. Stuart Downing has been bad, David De Gea has not.
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 1, 2012 5:49 PM GMT up reply actions
There's only one good 21 year old keeper in the league and his name is....
difficult to pronounce :cP /troll
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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 1, 2012 6:01 PM GMT up reply actions
Szczesny? A good keeper?
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by Edward_Francis on Feb 1, 2012 6:06 PM GMT up reply actions 2 recs
Give him a little credit!
He’s better than Almunia.
…Of course, Friedel in a wheelchair is better than Almunia.
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I actually do think Szczesny is a good keeper
He makes less mistakes than your average 21 yo starter. Quality player. Kept them in Champions League by himself.
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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 1, 2012 6:13 PM GMT up reply actions
This is true
Keepers are the one position in football who you actually want a late 20 year old or a 30 year old for. It’s probably why so many mid table teams get such good keepers. They take a chance on guys who have just been alright and then suddenly hit their prime.
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He sure did!
Also he’s a little bit crazy and that’s always fun.
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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 1, 2012 6:26 PM GMT up reply actions
My favorite thing about him is
the expression on his face when Rafa puts one past him. We get to see it like 4 times a season and I’m STILL not sick of it.
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by Skipjack on Feb 1, 2012 6:32 PM GMT up reply actions 2 recs
One of my favorite things about Szczesny
True Gooner he is. Also was respectful of Spurs after that which is nice I guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUVEK5uP8T4&feature=related
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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 1, 2012 6:46 PM GMT up reply actions
He's still faaaaar too gobby for his ability level
Just like the utterly charmless Mr. Jack Wilshere
by Edward_Francis on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 PM GMT up reply actions
There's no argument from me. De Gea has been better than Cech, Reina, and the majority of EPL goalkeepers this year.
But United shelled out 18 million pounds for him. Obviously United didn’t pay the fee for his current performances or current skill level. I was just saying I think De Gea will “come good” and perform what someone would expect an 18 million pound keeper would do in the future. And currently, to me at least, De Gea is not doing that.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 PM GMT up reply actions
Michael Cox of zonalmarking likes them.
So that’s good enough for me.
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by Lennon's Eyebrow on Feb 1, 2012 6:29 PM GMT up reply actions
Cool. And whoscored has Luka rated as the top player in the EPL this year ahead of Silva and RVP. VICTORY
What what?
Something fishy there…
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by Sabrina Dessipe on Feb 1, 2012 6:47 PM GMT up reply actions
What exactly is fishy?
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by Nick Petrilli on Feb 1, 2012 11:30 PM GMT up reply actions

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