Manchester City Vs. Tottenham Hotspur, 2012 Premier League: Match Report
by Kevin McCauley on Jan 22, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
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PrintLedley King is an idiot. Jermain Defoe should have scored. Neither of those things would have happened if Howard Webb saw this.
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I disagree with the Defoe thing
More blame on Bale than Defoe
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 3:51 PM GMT reply actions 1 recs
This
Bale should have played that ball wayyyy earlier and let Defoe go 1 on 1 with Hart.
That said, we lost the game because of an awful decision by King. There was no guarantee that Balotelli would turn that opportunity into a goal. A devastating loss, for sure.
by The Sleeping Chicken on Jan 22, 2012 3:54 PM GMT up reply actions
No blame on either. Both did well. Both had good second halves.
The goal was just 3 inches from happening. At full speed that’s nothing. Well played both of them.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 22, 2012 3:59 PM GMT up reply actions
I don’t know, I feel like Bale made the decision which put pressure on his crossing ability as opposed to putting the pressure on Defoe to finish past Hart. I don’t think I fault Bale for that.
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 4:22 PM GMT up reply actions
I do
Because Defoe beating Hart is more likely than the cross working
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:23 PM GMT up reply actions
I can’t fault Defoe for being 5’6. I can fault Bale just a bit for playing it like 0.3 seconds too late.
the issue isn’t the .3 seconds, its whether Bale should have played it “much” earlier so that Defoe could gather at his feet and then shoot 1 v 1 with Hart. Clearly the way Bale elected to go he set himself up for a difficult cross that he couldn’t quite pull off.
Nick’s of the opinion that earlier is obv better. Im not so sure because I can’t quite mentally construct the angle defoe has in that circumstance, but i do know that Hart is really really good in those situations. So meh.
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 4:30 PM GMT up reply actions
I just think Bale had an opportunity for an early through pass
And could have played Defoe onto it. Of course, knowing my luck, if he had done that he would have overshot it and passed it too far and given it to Hart
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:34 PM GMT up reply actions
Windy on twitter was saying that Bale elected to take the keeper one on one out of it.
Bale just wanted to let Defoe get a tap in. Possibly his thinking possibly not. But Windy also said that Defoe hesitated a bit in the run in, and if Defoe had run straight to the far post, he would have been there. That’s probably a product of lack of playing time with the rest of the squad. Bale and Defoe just weren’t on the same page, and that cost us the .3 seconds.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 22, 2012 4:34 PM GMT up reply actions
Sounds right
He hesitated for the pass, and as a result wasn’t there for the cross.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:36 PM GMT up reply actions
Yeah
That’s what I was trying to get at. He did it better obv.
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 4:36 PM GMT up reply actions
That's why.
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by She Blinded Me With Violence on Jan 22, 2012 3:54 PM GMT reply actions
You can't call Ledley an idiot
when you probably couldn’t have done any better than him were you in his boots
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 3:54 PM GMT via iPhone app reply actions
Not that I agree with calling King an idiot...
But this line of reasoning makes no sense. So nobody in the world can criticize footballers other than footballers themselves?
by The Sleeping Chicken on Jan 22, 2012 3:56 PM GMT up reply actions
Think about it
You can criticise a Fernando Torres vs Man U miss because anyone could have scored there. But this was a much harder decision to make and not many defenders would have made the right decision
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 3:58 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm sorry, that's wrong.
It’s an easy decision not to tackle there.
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by Bryan Ashlock on Jan 22, 2012 3:59 PM GMT up reply actions
And Balotelli is good enough to score from there if no one tackles him
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:01 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
He had a shit angle and no seperation
If Ledley doesn’t go down he’s still right with him
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:02 PM GMT up reply actions
King drags him down by the shoulder.
If he just stays shoulder to shoulder with him and actually plays defense we don’t have this problem.
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by Bryan Ashlock on Jan 22, 2012 4:02 PM GMT up reply actions
And actually, Kev probably could have done better in that situation.
All Ledley has to do there is not make that tackle. I think most of us are capable of not tackling someone.
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by Bryan Ashlock on Jan 22, 2012 3:58 PM GMT up reply actions
And then let Balotelli score anyway
Genius. Absolutely genius
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 3:59 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
You're being really stupid right now
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:01 PM GMT up reply actions
Like I said before
there’s no guarantee Balotelli would have scored. He wasn’t even straight on.
Let’s end this ridiculous conversation on this note: If that was Bassong who had made that tackle, you would have been calling him an idiot too. Just because King made the tackle doesn’t make it any less stupid.
by The Sleeping Chicken on Jan 22, 2012 4:02 PM GMT up reply actions
Hell, Bassong can't even make it out of the dugout.
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by Bryan Ashlock on Jan 22, 2012 4:03 PM GMT up reply actions 1 recs
isn't that danny rose?
Still lol
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by ElCarpet on Jan 23, 2012 1:44 AM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
No, I wouldn't
Because unlike most members of the commentariat, I don’t have an irrational hate for any members of our squad
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:03 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
???
No one hates anyone on our squad.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:05 PM GMT up reply actions
I didn't even HATE Hutton
I just didn’t think he was worth having on the team.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:07 PM GMT up reply actions
Really?
You know you can love a guy and still think he fucked up right?
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 4:06 PM GMT up reply actions
I agree that he fucked up
but I think that kneejerking, calling him an idiot and saying that he shouldn’t start is quite frankly stupid
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:09 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
1. Yes, you could call it kneejerk
2. It was idiotic
3. Saying he shouldn’t start is not stupid when he is not a clear cut above Dawson
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:11 PM GMT up reply actions
Yes, I agree it was idiotic
But he is not an idiot for one mistake.
And can you say with 100% certainty that Dawson would have done better there. Because while Daws may be more athletic, his decision making is no where near Ledley’s, and one mistake doesn’t change that
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:15 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not saying it with 100% certainty
No such person exists.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:17 PM GMT up reply actions
I don't necessarily disagree with 3
but given that we’ve never heard it before today, you can understand why some would consider it kneejerk
Well that's been me personally
But I haven’t written about it or talked about it much at all around here. I focus more attention on Kaboul
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:37 PM GMT up reply actions
Dawson
I’m more negative on Dawson than most people here seem to be. But to me this mistake only changes the pecking order if you think its hugely indicative of things to come from King. Personally I’m gonna need to see another shaky performance or three from him before I’d make the switch. Although with all of them healthy a little rotation (lol) would be fine.
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 4:42 PM GMT up reply actions
well I'm not paid to do that..
but mistakes happen and ledly has 10 years of making good decisions so I wouldn’t worry too much going forward
by MrBaker on Jan 22, 2012 9:24 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Honestly
Only people I have nothing negative to say about are Younes and Scotty.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:03 PM GMT up reply actions
Disagree
Kaboul was jointly at fault (along with Walker) for Nasri’s goal
by The Sleeping Chicken on Jan 22, 2012 4:04 PM GMT up reply actions
Ok I guess
But the dude was fucking clearing everything today.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:06 PM GMT up reply actions
He also made a very unwise lunge at Silva in the first half
that gave Silva free entry into the heart of the box
Yes
A good chance.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:07 PM GMT up reply actions
None actually
Webb pretty clearly saw that incident and it will be mentioned in the match report. The FA won’t be able to do anything at that point.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 22, 2012 4:22 PM GMT up reply actions
What the flying fuck
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:23 PM GMT up reply actions
The angle they showed on Sky Sports after the game made it look like Webb looked away at the wrong time
He only would have been able to catch it out of the corner of his eye. Or at least that’s what it looked like. I don’t know what the match report will say.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 22, 2012 4:23 PM GMT up reply actions
If he says he saw it then he's a gigantic fucking prick and a moron
For lying to try and save his own ass.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:26 PM GMT up reply actions
In fairness
It really didn’t look nearly as bad in full speed after Balotelli started to fall. It looks horrible when it’s slowed down, but Howard Webb doesn’t have that luxury.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 22, 2012 4:28 PM GMT up reply actions
Since when?
I always thought Howard Webb had slow-mo vision!
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:31 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Sorry I wasn't implying he will lie with "I don't know what the match report will say."
I’m sure he’ll tell the truth. Like Stephen said it’s a hard decision to make in real time. The FA will make the right decision I’m sure
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 22, 2012 4:29 PM GMT up reply actions
Assuming they can
If Webb mentions seeing it at all their ridiculous rules don’t even let them look at it
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 22, 2012 4:30 PM GMT up reply actions
Well I meant the right decision as governed by their rules.
If there’s no Balotelli ban, then it’s not going to be because Webb and the FA are against us. It’ll be because of some silly rule.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 22, 2012 4:36 PM GMT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the thing
I’m guessing that Webb will say he saw it, and I’m guessing the FA will be able to do nothing about it, which will be quite convenient for both since neither particularly wants to own up to mistakes being made
If he says he saw the incident and believes it didn't merrit a booking
He will be given a poor referee grade. I guarantee he says he couldn’t see it and if he did he would have sent him off. My bet is Balotelli gets 4 games.
by BJ the Bossman on Jan 23, 2012 3:37 PM GMT up reply actions
From The Guardian match report:
Balotelli lucky boy update: Absolute consensus in the Sky studio that Balotelli should have been sent off. “If he deems this not a sending-off,” says Graeme Souness of Howard Webb, “he shouldn’t be refereeing football matches let alone World Cup finals.” If Webb saw it and didn’t send him off, he’s a useless referee. If he didn’t see it, Balotelli should get a massive FA ban. We’ll see.
I like Graeme Souness a whole lot right now
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:11 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
We don't play them again
Except possible FA Cup
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:21 PM GMT up reply actions
Oh wait, I forgot
Nope, don’t play them again
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:21 PM GMT up reply actions
UMad?
U mad bro? City did the double over you and you can only make jokes that they’re out of the FA Cup. Pathetic.
Please, let us weep amongst ourselves
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:36 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a troll with us. And someone who has possibly been a City fan for an hour and a half.
Ah, gotta love the glory hunters
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 4:38 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
That wasn't a joke
If you weren’t braindead you’d realize that.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:38 PM GMT up reply actions
At least we made the knockout in that
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:38 PM GMT up reply actions
At least it took Real Madrid to knock us out of that competition
not a team that hasn’t been in the CL in like years
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Nice job getting out of CL group stages. We did it last year, and got to quarters, in our first year in CL. Can you say that??? NAH, I DIDN’T THINK SO.
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So, after today's events, Citeh could be without Yaya, Kolo, Kompany, Balotelli, and Lescott?
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:40 PM GMT up reply actions 2 recs
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM GMT up reply actions
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Yeah, I couldn't believe that either
I went over there just to see whether they were patting themselves on the back and all I saw was tumbleweeds.
THAT HAS TO COUNT FOR SOMETHING
/listens to Dashboard Confessional
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Really hope this team has the mental strength to go forward
and not fold. Its time to consolidate. Hope guys like Luka and Gareth and Rafa feel this way
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I'm sure they're gutted at the moment, but they should take heart in their performance
They controlled long portions of the match and looked more likely to win it for a while there
I'm shocked at the reactions here.
Utterly shocked.
Admittedly, I only saw the first ten minutes of the game, and it’s the fan’s province to criticize individual performances. Everyone’s pissed at Ledley. I get that. I saw the replay, it was a boneheaded tackle.
But as others have said, Ledley deserves the benefit of the doubt. How many other times this season has he had a mental breakdown on the pitch? How many times, in contrast, and over the past X-many-of-years has he been a calming, solid influence on the team? How many times has he put in absolutely immense performances for us?
Nobody’s probalby taking this harder than Ledders himself. He’s our captain. He’s earned that. I’m dismayed by the number of people, the site moderator included, who have knee-jerked their way into calling for Ledley to hang up his boots for Spurs after this game. Shocking.
We’re all human. Ledley included. I’m as gutted as the rest of you, but King’s not the only one to blame for this loss.
We’ve got Ledley at the back. You can stick Sol Campbell up your arse.
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by Uncle Menno on Jan 22, 2012 5:07 PM GMT reply actions 5 recs
Yea, I’m honestly really mad at the people calling for no more Ledley. They wouldn’t have said that in the 92nd minute, that’s for sure.
That would be the minute before he cost us the game
Honestly, it was a shockingly bad decision. At the very least he has to be on notice
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He wasn't the only one who cost us the game you know
Defoe not scoring. Bale not passing earlier. Even though I don’t think any one player is responsible for us losing, you could argue that almost any of our players is responsible.
by Aslan the Melon on Jan 22, 2012 5:33 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
This
100x this.
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by Mike_L_Goodman on Jan 22, 2012 5:25 PM GMT up reply actions
Totally agree
Seriously surprised at some of the reactions on here.
Honestly, Kevin has been one of the one Spurs fans whose opinions I’ve actually valued and looked forward to hearing but after that reaction towards King today I’m totally disappointed.
It was a shit tackle, everyone can agree on that. To say King is past it or even on notice is possible the most retarded thing in the world. Yes he is getting old, is he past it? Not even close. He is still our best centre half, a bit of perspective would be nice.
We lost (marginally) to the best team in the league. This shit was not handed out when we lost to Stoke, wind your necks in
by Luke Winston on Jan 22, 2012 7:27 PM GMT up reply actions
Did RvP get hurt? I’d know if the match would have started on damn time here. Oh hey, the team’s are finally coming out of the tunnel for kick off!!
Champions League
Blew our chance for the League Title today, IMHO. Still in it for the cup. We need to retrench for the top four now. That’s what Arry’s said all along. Now we’ll be less distracted by keeping-up with the big boys. We’re close tho. Maybe this’ll Spur Levy into buying us a striker? What’s done is done. Time to look for the positives lads!
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I don't understand the blame placing going on here.
I thought Spurs played a tough game and a loss is a harsh result given their performance. They dominated possession the first half and for large stretches of the second half. They came back from TWO GOALS DOWN – IN MANCHESTER – to tie the game on a wonderstrike from Gareth Bale. Had Defoe scored on that counter in the last 2 minutes, I would have considered Spurs fortunate to have come away with the 3 points. A draw felt like the fairest result given the two teams performances. Only we lost. And this loss hurts more because of the way we lost it, and because I feel like we were deserving of the point. And let’s not forget we were playing the top team in the EPL away, and still put in a hell of a performance.
I’m hoping Harry can use us being hard done in this game to inspire the team and give them more confidence, because in the match I watched, we were every bit as good as Manchester City today.
That's right
I got up at 5:30 am only to get my heart crushed. But this should be a passing moment.
We kept up with the best in the league and could’ve nicked it in their own stadium at the end. We’re still in the hunt for the top spot and, in any case if we keep playing the way we do, it’s hard to see us finishing below 3rd. CL glory here we come, and we will attract world-class players.
There is still room to go up from here. Cheer up. The looks on the squad at the end said it all. This team has serious ambitions.
Even though I love him . . .
I shouted at BAE when he didn’t let the ball roll out of play for a Spurs throw.
Instead, he promptly dragged the ball back, and fired a hopeless long ball up the field, straight back to City, who then promptly sent the ball up to Ballotelli, and then the penalty.
Its the last minute of the game, 2-2 away at City . . . KEEP.THE.FUCKING.BALL!!!!!!!11
I thought the lads put in a great effort, but its little things like that, that separate ‘Title Winners’ from ‘Also Rans’. Fundamental mistake, putting pressure back on the defence.
Just saw an interview with Harry . . .
He basically just said the same thing. I think BAE might have gotten a roasting at full time.
by DiamondLights on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 AM GMT up reply actions
So..
Does King fight whatever injury he picks up between now and the next game and force himself in to try and attone for the error, and then blows himself up for the season? Let us hope not, but I can see it happening.
Yeah, rough day
Both Spurs and Ravens lost their biggest games of the season in the final minute.
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How did that game end like that? After each QB had like 5-6 drives to win it and neither could, this random guy screws up a punt for the 2nd time? Stupid. I don’t care about either team I just wanted a better ending after sitting through four hours!
haha understandable!
Niners D is ridonk. Weather didn’t help. Niners on Offense were 1/13 on 3rd down conversions (their lone conversion being on the last play of regulation).
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No Harbowl?
Thank God. Although, with the Terps loss yesterday and the Caps and Wiz today. It was not a good day in the sports world.
by Brendan Darr on Jan 23, 2012 5:47 AM GMT up reply actions
As Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, "Let facts be submitted to a candid world."
I’d like to see an analysis of King’s play this season, as performed by one Brian Mechanick. I don’t know whether that will settle the questions raised by today’s performance, but it will, at least, give us a little more than anecdotal evidence to argue over.
by The Sleeper's Sleep on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 AM GMT reply actions
Mother fucking karma
You know the way they say that all the bad and unlucky decisions even over the season well we are owed some serious karma now.
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